I love getting meta on the show. Lauren Wilkinson was so much fun to talk to, not only because American Spy is such a satisfying read, but also because she was more than willing to dive into deep topics like figuring out what it means to tell the truth when writing fiction. I adore talking about craft on this show, but sometimes even more than craft it's important to go further into what it means to be a writer, what we're striving to achieve by writing books, and how we know when we've gotten it right.